The Story Of The Clancy Brothers And Tommy Makem

Lincoln Center New York May 20 1984 a reunion concert your fancy brothers tell me I'll play. No they just reached a lot of people you know, with their exuberance the attitude both an old friend from 20 years ago that I mean they're all great singers they're all so different. When it came to singing there were four recognizable human beings fallible human beings you know, no work. They weren't  watching every step they made clearly even though they were thoroughly professional. Oh well I never heard those kind of songs before although I close up you know I've heard them on records but I hadn't heard them close up all those the legendary people who used to sing about Brennan on the moor or Roddy McCauley, but it was as if it just existed yesterday in somewhat ironic but true that the most positive I've seen here in the 1960s the Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem got their first break not in Ireland but right here in America right now they're rehearsing for their upcoming reunion concert to be given here in New York City.

Liam Tom and Paddy Clancy the three brothers from County Tipperary and their friend Tommy Makem fables cross that out right thank you just another television show. what I'll do is we'll be here rolling and then I'll give the cute action. Many was this feeling countless, but the first one was the Ed Sullivan Show which was probably the biggest influence of all.You want to go the toilet, is too late no none of us from underneath or sovereign counties of Tipperary enormous the thrilling voices of the fancy dress ball now ,

Our following was mostly people who were interested in folk music. They weren't Irish oriented anyway most  probably Jewish all national and the Ariston take any notice I was because there were specifically Irish places where hiring entertainment went on, and we never played in those places by but the Ed Sullivan Show once they saw some, that I was like getting a blessing from the Pope all the Irish Catholics in there in America would come to our concerts right the day after the Ed Sullivan Show.

We had to go to Chicago to do shows at the Playboy Club and Tom and I were walking down the street looking for digs we had the sweaters around our shoulder and we were not known in Chicago at all and one fella said  hey boys I saw you last night you look great. Tom turned to me and said hey they're famous. Oh back to our beginnings the banks of the river sure County Tipperary. to me it had the Shakespearean scholars puzzled for centuries to try and find out what colino Castorama meant until they discovered was an old Irish song which means Colleen oak I am a young girl cos yura Mae from the banks of the River Hill Castle sacked in war

Chieftains are scattered far truth is a fixit's star it's true isn't it it's amazing how fast it all happens when you think that over in that dungeon there when we were kids the manacles were still on the wall the patches of the blood they're stained into the into the into the limestone we used to be looking at that I mean that's not that long ago terrible now to think of the damage that we did while we're playing games around this place you know he was not hurt ann bolyn Henry the eighth's wife was born, that's right fellow rotators  in school and Boland was born in the almond casting Carrick On Sure, while her mother was on a visit to London.

You know there was no woods on that when when I was growing up all you could see was the rock to bare rock with the caves there was hazel trees we threw out there and big major mess because a fire was in our head but look at, they see the island below swimming out of that, we used to go down there and get a stick steel Forks out of the kitchen and tie the fork to the end of the state remember walking down there and lifting the stones you see the IRA's head peering out from under the thing and you get him right behind them they made a lovely something.

Oh Tommy Makem is Irish Pavilion is just around the corner from the old Blue Angel where we played in the early days and it was an ideal spot for a rehearsal, for the big night at Lincoln Center Katie let's move from May comes in 57 state New York to Makem in Katy County Armagh the hope of the universe that's Pat McClellan was a neighboring I was passing by and I said we're gonna have to go through the town Pat, and Pat says when did you get up on the horse Edwin's right through Ito UMaine when we lived in that one do you every day I was raised there so but he okay was born in a house along here but they did away with these houses and put in this this. Hey Mike nice on the batter what's that scar for a woman there's the garage I want to work yeah subject I did,  I worked me in the office in there I don't know for years and years part 3 years and years after I left student my first job there don't tell you see so fairly well my own true love this is the town of caricature in

Tipperary that we bid our farewells to so many years ago but that was though down where we've come from was the north gate of the town this is where we were all born. I was born in that room there I don't know where the rest were born, in that room there and I'm told I was born in the front row and of course we used to rush out of here on Sunday mornings up to mass and they say the nearer the church the more you're late for mass and we were always late

This is St. Nicholas's church in St. Nicholas's party is one of the few churches which is really realistic about passing the collection plate because you can see the dollar sign over the door so you know what's expected. When you walk this entire street shakes with the sound of that Bell and our lives were to a great extent regulated by that were births deaths marriages. You always know whether it was a man or a woman because it was over a woman the Sun is on the and I wish I could remain me Bridge Street I used to work on moon bar here, didn't after I left the area to work last night, see I'm used to being back here oh yes you don't stop you remember when I was here the way of remember will tell me Thomas the total yesterday you have new wee bit of an airport on you nobody did that we remember she give you one by everyone off the way here.

I got many's a good song offer, I draw those aren't you guys anyone who know down the turn that fella let you go now the boy is still land on the monument this was the center of our universe wasn't a dis little area around here these streets we read within shouting distance of our mother that was the important thing about this area was the important things in life happened here did the wetness the Chrisman's the general the funerals. I carried many a coffin in that gate well we are very relative we all carried our father and mother in through there we were in here at the christenings of all our nieces and nephews times two when this town was much wilder than it is now.

I remember a fierce husband-and-wife fight that went all the way down the Main Street across new Street of Williams Street and I remember the entire town was behind him by the time they got here and the guard the sergeant of the guards, coming up and trying to separate them ,the husband and wife and he hit the husband a belt at which point the wife pulled up her dress and took a poker up forever stocking and went for the guard or interfering between their in their love fight depends . Oh the water when you're doing a concert open the holy mother dear I was telling fortune oh you were telling boy - no sorry dressed up like an Indian I like an Indian are sweet nor does a long time ago tell them reading people's powers bring the guards when they believe everything and her leave doors like a Canaanite on behalf of the people, we gave a hearty welcome to Tommy Makem.

So put the house together, a show band I used to sing with before I went off to the green views of America they're called the Clipper tones and I met Jim Hughes on the street he said you come  do a gig with us I said it'd be delighted to. We used to go every Saturday night to the dance in the city hall Nama one other place in Katy no not like the rest of it it was a bit shy couldn't talk to the girls at all so we put him insane in one time for a fortnight and you have to say something nice to her to get the conversation started tell us is lovely hair or she's wearing a beautiful dress or she's a smashing dancer or something nice to get the conversation started.  we hammered it into him for a fortnight and after the fortnight we went to the dance and of course all the Katy boys was watching him you see see how he was going to do it he got up enough courage - this guarantee dance and her dance in the middle of the floor and one of the boys and Katy all was stared near him to hear what he was going to say to the girl and he was over here to say you know for a fat girl you don't sweat too much I've gotten a lot of mileage over that of a storyteller the first time they heard you tell it San Francisco in 1961 I told it man isn't man is a tame but I was just bringing it all back home again where I started it around and there are little counted on summer's almost , we watch opposite here so no don't don't judge him there's a big ship sailing on the end the alioli and Leone on the old there's a big ship sailing great place for Quitman tops and rolling hoops and then in the winter time down the street we put the water down and it would freeze summer lightly frosting have a skate we never skate down the street I learned to secularize Sunday Sunday mornings and after Mass this was a great spot for a pitch and toss.

I remember all the lads out there with the - half-pennies on a bit of a stick throwing them up you know heads or tails my mother has gone to church she told me not to play with you because you're in the dirt and to the Picasso Georgie I did a Picasso clean it's because I have the Whooper company Marjorie we were a cheerful pointy teeth this last Christmas the dreams were back in our hometown club be temporary we were down on St. Stephen's Day with the Ren in the morning of St. Stephen's Day the day after Christmas we used to go out a little dead bird in the holly bush.

​We'd dress ourselves up with all any of our mother's clothes or any unusual clothes we could get black in our faces we had a holly bush do we decorate with ribbons and papers and we go around to the neighbours like that disguise and with the dead bird in the bush we'd sing the rents are and collect money for the and they'd used to go the render and the king of all verses evens day was cut in the fours although he was little he thought it was great jump up me lads and give us a trait as I was going to kill the doll I met to run upon the wall up when a wattle and knocked him down and got him into character rolling rolling where's your nest is in the bush the ifs in the tree the holly tree were all the boys to follow me home and give us a penny to bury the rat, like one of the run three miles or 40 players or more demon interval for the directly visible it since it on the board I happen but so they are on the way our follow me are my ankle button and they are but many herbal to do no harm mrs. patty Japanese woman are very open up but when she gave us that many my mom or something because you are mad but I was read what it does as well we had a bigoted salient mate on Adeste Fideles.

But we also had a him for all seasons as well not belong acknowledge our goes to hell they give million Rochester hope but happen Duke was Hanuman to the Senate and even though we got our ''born in sweaters'' there some of them are great some of them yeah look at them their first ones came from here there's a free sweater Tommy is gonna be there oh I'm never too far away look double each other thank you I didn't think you cared they're all rigged up for Lincoln Center welcome back to New York it's all the baby okay well and Maria they are of chakra more there it is by the grand City Hall in New York as the psalm says features wait and then wait and then wait for the mayor I suppose you always have to wait to see a minute there our friend Ed Koch when we say come in the year of our Lord eighteen hundred and six we set sail from the col key of Cork,  I started out many years ago New York to get a little park built down by the Hudson River when we met him here at City Hall.

He said to me, Tom I'm the mayor now is there anything you need done with the hands up there, we go why you had gone to town but vision when she saw us was the next best thing to Pacific reception that's a lot different from the first time we ever arrived in New York Steve when we went for petit Casey my brother Tom and myself retrievers on that ship the Marine flasher from Southampton to New York we had no address in Canada we had a visa for Canada we had no notion of what kind of a job we might get who we might meet or what the place was going to be like and we had a very small amount of money we probably had enough to keep us going for three and a half weeks. Now you take with you right a photograph of your mother or your family or what have you you take your toothbrush you take a pen and you might have a little whiskey.

If you were looking right but mostly have a flood or perhaps you were a week under the ship with little community t'was nice but then the moment had to come when you always though it was inevitable that would come the joy to walk down that gangplank and leave that ship and then you're on your own we had to get a train from New York to Toronto and didn't have one address and when we got off the train and all the people got out, got their bags got into taxis, and started going off in their own direction we just stood there we had no address nowhere to go Tom went and had a haircut I don't know why but that's lead in anyway. There was a barbershop in the railway station walked out of the railway station now I could have turned left right or straight ahead they were the only Road Road I went straight ahead and I walked for about half a mile and I came to a little dinky Hotel and I went in and they had a room we slept that night in that room and we had plans the following morning to go out and get a place to live and jobs and find out how to live in North America Greenwich Village New York City

USA. was a great place to start off it was the mecca for the young actors and artists anyone striving to make it in New York City in the arts had to start off in Greenwich Village this little theater behind us here played a great role in the beginnings of our performing in New York paddy my brother Patty and I came to New York in 1951 and my first experience with the set of theatre behind us is I produced and directed the hello tradition records office we had that down a few blocks down the street here too and at night planning what recordings were going to put out I would sit in there and at nights they'd be writing it down and planning what we're going to the following day you know what lt's different without planning for music and at night we had a few drinks.

We used to tear into a few songs. Paddy and I had  quite a good repertory of the old songs we didn't consider them folk songs we just solaced that we knew and with other performers we performed here on Saturday night at the midnight special I think we called you 1959 Liam Clancy and myself were in a play we're a play of Paul Vincent Carol's called shadow and substance we were playing to police and a couple of men campus here's one night said they were opening a book club down the village and we were living in the village at the same and the folk club was to be called Gary's fourth peg it later became known as Garrity spoke city you were around them all the time and they just sang so many songs all the time you just you couldn't help but the first album I made, there was one song on it that it was an old song from I'd heard on an old banjo record someplace.

But I did that song the way the Clancy Brothers I thought would have done it you know if you know in their style Ireland was a very inhibiting place at that time and could be stood there's a whole lot of repressions you know there's so much would have been repressed coming here to Greenwich Village you could see yourself just walking around the streets today there's a freedom there are no social mores to which you have to conform either cultural sexually sartorial ever anything went with a burning bush a bomb of its power top I was running so to sister my great ambition was to be an actor I went from here and did some television shows in New York when they were doing life theater on television.

Being a group and in strength you get a lot of courage ah you don't have to grapple with the individual decisions you can kick things around and you can't talk about the future and you can talk about planning when I was sitting down in that office in tradition records Tommy Makem came down and came in one day with his hand in a sling well he was working in a foundry up in Dover New Hampshire, and two tonne of iron or something he couldn't work and he was wandering around and he had Tommy had the idea to because he had been acting in that nipping in a show banned in Ireland but he wanted to put out an LP and that gave me the idea with Tommy to form the group by using this was one of the first group Adele that was recorded in March of 1956 and Kenny Goldstein's kitchen in the bronze but I never thought when we were doing that record that I was able to singing at all because that was Owney I think all of us at that time felt that we were going to do other on singing what we did the rising oh yeah well that was just that we were passing through I remember I was delighted because plenty paid me $30 for singing a song on your phone Am I when we sang a rebel song those days it wasn't to present any political point of view except to show that there were interesting signs about what you know it was a just because it is an interesting human expression happened to be an art form of a rebel song I could be involved work song could be a love song many times.

I think the folk songs always told more truth about history than the history books anyway, as somebody said written history is nothing more than the propaganda of the victory. For me I never heard a singer as good as Liam. Ever he was just the best balancing I've ever heard in my life it still it's probably I don't think I I can think of anybody who's a better ballad singer than Liam or if our minds it's always a certain brotherly rivalry between Paddy and Tom resentment of his young brother coming along being able to play and sing and somehow bringing the musical side of the other group bringing that into focus was a certain resentment kid brother with the hell is he think he is and we had a lot of fights that way but that also brought Tommy Makem and I close, I my eye I - why remember when we did this one drinking sounds we've seen it down some houses like you said okay a father I suppose we recorded that in the theater you were doing Ulysses they sang all the boys came and sang on the pro that used to be at the way to our city it was a great gang at the boy fortunate just lay my we didn't have a style we kept sharing the latest stages he didn't know what they were talking about we just sang the songs as loudly as we could because of were four of us there I'm Liam buddy's guitar style because he had a small guitar and there would be one microphone he'd have to hold the guitar up like this and play it like this sort would be here to keep us in tune at one point in our careers.

I try to play the bagpipes, we would play the bagpipes and walk onstage and then we'll stop the bike play from the start to sink nobody gonna give you the keys up the bagpipes and all and change already give it up but we say we were going through, Oh this was the one we really went professional on we even had the name the Clancy Brothers now in guitars and everything and that was the first that's actually the first time the mainthe Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem with you on a record I'd love to find that piece of paper with all the possible group claims that we've had what do you mean piece of paper that was a whole exercise book see Bangor manda tinker's we tied around here did the Chieftains yeah the druid moonshiners everything we used to try and do three weeks that it would be three weeks of one-night stands and then great and we did that we had a we had a rule that we would do that and we would do that maybe for six months and then at the end of six months we'll stop altogether and go our own separate ways maybe for a month. And I think that helped when we came back together professionally among real records signed us up after we did help The Ed Sullivan TV they became interested immediately when they saw some television and this was the first one of those thought Pete Seeger was on the banjo.

That's the first record that we wore sweaters of Jewish managed New York and Marty Ehrlichman and he thought we had great potential but he couldn't figure out how to package us well he, he wanted to package yourself though and he just didn't know how to do it until he saw these sweaters that our mother had sent us mm-hmm as soon as he saw the the sweaters he said that's it he said that's it that's exactly what I want and my creation on the 17th of August the multitudes as ever and our decision may I speak at the Gosselin to see the races we just couldn't believe the luck that we had couldn't believe the luck of being successful and playing places like the play by clubs and going back to Hefner's apartment afterwards and he thought chasing the bunny he didn't get enough sleep or ubo door making you be talkin' and yakking and at parties and singing all night and you'd have to move on the next day to go to some place that's what it was mostly physical thing but there was very little mental pain because things just sort of fell together for us with me whoo-hoo.

Randy and me last only spittin away meet the people who produce the show you had to go and drink with them after the show and the late nights and a lot of drinking my only irate right and eventually you the hangovers became very great for me and I decided at that time that I'd better stop completely on alcohol altogether and that was ten years ago and I haven't had a drink since then and I find that mornings are a lot better being feted by people like Pat O'Brien finding that Bing Crosby wanted to record with Maureen O'Hara wattanaram Carly's it's just unbelievable been offered her own television series oh no it was very hard Oh the million denomination mother wine persuasion the pontiff my father go on it the goal of the day yeah but this is our best Carnegie Hall lie it was more fun for us than for the audience because at times we used to stand on that stage looking out at them and they doing their show for us over the night the fellas hat came tumbling down from the top balcony hi Tom if Tommy shouted up I hope your head wasn't in it and then threw threatened throw it up - and who became a great happening and what's recording a for Greenfields on that pony feels i wrote in the car gone from John dog jr. II hate in my head yet and then when I got back home back to John dog I wrote it down in his paper 1968 my in-laws Oh oh gee well the photograph on this album obviously was taking the Ulster Hall in Belfast.

I see by the crowd behind, that was one of the few places really had the people stacked up behind us I remember him very nervous walking into that situation wondering what kind of a reception we were going to get and if it I was just looking at the songs on the back here realizing that we decided to do an entire evening of love songs well we weren't we weren't nearly as nervous as the police were very diplomat who was the policeman oh he's to stay in our dressing room why we were on stay was if he was a superintendent of the RIC if they're all using he was enough our years for you see and he had a big black thorn stick and he was there I don't know what he was doing in our dressing room he seen his look over drink he's deaf exactly what he did when he got it we had a bottle of whiskey as soon as he goes onstage he drank about Louise right a wonderful thing happened at that time there was a bunch of students at Queen's University in Belfast and a bunch of Catholic students and they invaded a bunch of Protestant students to go and to hear these four boys singing these songs you see and they paid for the tickets and they brought these their friends very reluctantly to the concert and they had such a great time that the second time we were back in Belfast the Protestant students want to take us and brought the Health Authority and a fella came in one night and give us four black preceptory badges which is a very secret organization or something of the Orange Order.


 I can find and obviously I could never do it but the trying was the fun, you know and to come over here and do as much as you could and see Eric and I don't know whether it was the movies or walking at certain set the seed in the imagination that there was lovely things outside that small is a town in Tipperary exciting things happening out in the world it's a pity let them all go on and just spend your life in one spot, die there I'd never heardthe holy ground until we were at a party in San Francisco with a bunch of priests and they sang this song little did they realize that the holy ground was the red-light district of Cork Harbor otherwise I don't think they would have been singing it and we didn't have the courage to tell them we didn't know either tell you the truth but it immediately caught our fancy especially when it was possible to get an entire audience shouting very fact that we never intended to be singers professionals and that we didn't care whether they liked us or not.

The fact that we're all out there on the state not that they didn't like us or not but we intended to go back to the theatre and that was our job and we were taking that very seriously and that's probably probably why we weren't as successful at acting as we were at singing was that the theatre was very seriously where is he the music that was what we did for fun and that fun is the thing that communicates itself do you know material came from a more innocent age and in our very complex out of society in New York especially, a lot of these songs come from nice little country villages and they have the air of sort of past innocence in a pastoral setting and they were kind of refreshing in a big Part in America we were kind of young folks and we had a helluva neck and we were big chancers and we were willing to go into the middle of any place but our two big feet in the Midlands say here I am and felt the other son still see you I keep telling myself that I'm going to retire and fish and I love to fish in this little river by my house and I telling the wife, sell these cows now and she said I'm listening to you saying that for the last ten years now and you have no notion I would no sooner tell her I was going to sell out everything in return that I'd be making plans to go to America and do something or making plans to get more cows or something.

so I suppose I'll die in harness, I hope so regrets never know I do it all again I enjoyed it so much this has been a great life for me and I've enjoyed the performing, enjoy the theater enjoy the scene and I'm looking forward to doing these concerts with Tommy and Paddy and Liam again. I am enjoying singing even more now than when I started because I think I have a better grip of it I know more know what it's about and I think I'll continue to do it until the day I die a supposed us in the blood like runs in the family like a wooden leg love to be an architect love to be a writer love to be a firmly maybe even in this day and age Roxy you can't do everything and there's regret that you can't do everything would you obviously can I would have loved to stay tall maybe with my Marin's when they were all that would be nice this my father Bob Cancy and this is my mother Johanna McGraw was Romanies but she went out before they were married she would go to America 1911 and my father was to follow but when the Titanic went down 1912 no way was he gonna cross the Atlantic.

If she hadn't come back tom says he to be the mayor of Boston by now over here and my mother's parents Thomas McGraw her father and her mother was Alice Colorfully now the to play this is one picture now what actually was two pictures put together my mother when she was in America she had these two photographs for parents and she put them together and had to enlarge and my grandmother always complained about it because the photograph of the grandmother was taken when she was much older than the grandfather she thought that wasn't fair I oh dear you there's a picture of my mother Sara making a source of many we'll play all the blood all we that's me and the ooh look away I Oh we Oh if my true love she were gone I you only fine where or why roars alarm well lousy Oh Oh - Oh we Oh summertime is coming trees are sweetly blue I you know why - time hold our revels now are ended these are actresses have foretold you were all spirits and are melted into air into thin air like the baseless fabric of this vision cloud-capped palaces gorgeous towers solemn temples the great globe itself yay all which they inherit shall dissolve and like this insubstantial pageant faded leave not a rack behind where such stuff as dreams are made on and our little life is rounded with a sleep I've asked me in Shakespeare's horses have you no homes to go to we've got a lady in Lobby you'll see if he's got 15 years from now same time same place with a little song called the parting glass Oh money the day I spend I spend it in gold company and all the harm that a I've done all us it was to me and all I've done for one Tahoe it to memory now I can't soulful to be the parting glass good night and joy be with you Oh walakum rains that aha they are sorry oh my boy and all the sweethearts that air I have they would wish me one more day but since my not I hate your eyes and you should nah I will gently rise and I'll sound the call good night and joy be like madness safer thanks for coming you

Liam Clancy Interview On TV3 2016
you're saying that you don't remember saying that no I think he made it up yeah well I mean with Dylan you never know because he's he is possibly one of the greatest lawyers that's ever been born no it's very possible we did. we I know we had a real great philosophical many great philosophical Asian to the night chats you know it's very possible but he's got a a vice grip memory. So if he says it probably did happen  and I mean it for a Dylan fan its extraordinary for a whole variety of reasons but that the footage that we haven't seen before the reaction to him when he went to a trick first of all but I have to say in terms of the people and you featured quite heavily in us but yourself and Dave Van ronk were the only two of his contemporaries that I didn't detect bitterness are a bit of envy or the green-eyed monster there was there was an awful lot I know I know of three people contemporaries of ours or friends of jail deny myself who committed suicide Paul Clayton who was old friend songwriter he was so devastated he pulled an electric fire into the table with him and Peter lafarge who wrote to one of Johnny Cash's big songs called him drunken Raz don't matter anymore Peter lafarge he said his wrists in my batter and Phil Ochs hanged himself and and that one one of the late nights that I had with Dylan I said he doesn't ever bother you.

You know that whatever not a conscience that your success was so devastating to these guys he said well I can't take that on board you know people do what they do for me to take that on as a as a lump a guilt would not mmm in the theory that he did he couldn't take on being the voice of a generation either he never helped at that that was something that was put on him he didn't yeah it frightened him it frightened him because he was very very insecure when he came to Greenwich Village first and he run around with us and he was always looking for affirmation.

You know he's very very insecure and I think nobody was more amazed than he was when he hit the big time just zoomed off into superstardom well your place as a legend of Irish focus there's no question about it and you're in there now I think you're stepping into the shoes of paddy Reilly is it and Jim McCann I think on Mondays night gig said he credited you with making Irish folk music cool at once again is there a revival and the whole thing of Irish folk music and how would you react to being credited with making it cool once more.

Well it's a cyclical thing, it comes and goes you know and different kinds of music become popular then they begin to pall on people and then another cycle comes around. I always stuck with folk music because I felt it was a very honest kind of music hi it was a history of the people in song they say the written history is nothing more than the propaganda of the winner hmm you know but folk songs tell the story restoring reality it's one of your you're talking about you know you decided to stock with folk and if you look us say folk jazz classical the three musical genres where we're age experience wisdom and and long-term mastery of your craft and gets acknowledged and gets more praised as you get older I mean you know in pop you can be huge for five minutes you can make 50 million retire and then two weeks later nobody's ever heard of it and they're not interested whereas I'm looking Dillon is know what he'll be he's 60.

He's just on a series of three albums that are maybe no he's 63 I'm 71 and he's five years younger than me well again he see again you never know with him but what he's he's having a lake bloom Christie has just made one of his best friend arts you've and you I mean you've never gone away but people are rediscovering what you did well I'm a great believer in the philosophy I heard a lion from the port bertolt brecht loosely translated says where the man's dying breath he must be prepared to make a fresh start and I think that unless you keep excited about every day and unless you keep that the child inside you full of wonderment you're gonna age you're going to you got to go stayed and that's one thing I never want to do so you're still keeping it as exciting as it was back in the days when we saw I did it I find it incredible still that I wake up in the morning and I have to color cameras in my head and I am looking at the planet and the colors and the and the wonderment around me and I say you know why question miracles is that this thing is a mirror is it the secret it not to be become jaded and not to become cynical liam is is well how can you it's all you know it'll do results to amaze me that people can because there's so much,

There's so much just amazement in when you think of the planet itself heart lling around the Sun this great ball of fire you know that this is a atomic energy generator and that's just one little speck of flame in there in the millions billions of stars in the Milky Way hey the wonderment of it all so your love for life is clearly unabated but you were telling me the iron jumper is on coming out of the closet anymore and you were offered a lot of money to wear them were you you were saying you had one stage an hour we just signed up Columbia Records and we thought we had made the ultimate amount of money over a hundred grand you know advance and the next thing a a clothing company offers us quarter of million to give our names they are in sweaters how we debated it and we had a meeting and we said well we're making a pile of money at seeing Andy the only livelihood of the people who make the sweaters back him usually the poorest part of Ireland you know Donny Gaul Connemara nettles the Aran Islands are we don't take the bit out of their mouth for the sake of money that's going to be so it was an ethical decision.

I mean you use letting you see it's quite a story I mean people know obviously that you've been in the business and you've been vastly influential figure for 40 odd years. but I think they forget that the Clancy's in their day were were the musical export equivalent of you to you were the biggest Irish musical it was a frightening world I it was frightening and I can see why somebody like Dylan would be frightened of it because I remember coming out of a concert in jostle by the crowd one night and I get this job in the arts and I look around and there's two teenage girls and one of them has a straightened out safety pin that she's just pulled out of my bottom and she said he was up in Belfast he's real he's training that's his blood they are high she's blood so if you prick him he does lead and if you go to the Gaetti you will see him performing eyes at all this week and up until Saturday yeah and it's like a box of chocolates you got Ronnie Drew Finnbar furey, Johnny McEvoy myself and the four different flavors andJim McCann [Grace Song ] holding it off it doesn't get any better than that does it and all getting better with age like a good wine.
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